[外電] The Numbers: Kevin Garnett is "Snuff …

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http://0rz.tw/133Rw The Numbers: Kevin Garnett is "Snuffing Them Out" April 1, 2008 3:38 PM Ahh, the great MVP debate. 啊沒錯,是有關於MVP的辯論。 There are simply stellar arguments -- that you can back up with amazing statistics, for Chris Paul and LeBron James. Years and years go by without anyone having statistics like theirs. 有些很主要的論點-你可以找到一些很誇張的數據當依據來支持Chris Paul和Lebron James。年復一年,沒人可以達到像他們一樣的數據。 Kobe Bryant has a lot going for him. He has the kind of great numbers he has often had. But now he also has the reality that he's the focal point of one of the very best teams in the league, and in the eyes of just about all those who see him play regularly, he's capable of more amazing things than any other player in the game. Kobe Bryant也有很多支持者。他有一些偉大的數字,一如往常。但是他要面對一個現 實:他處在聯盟裡最好的幾支球隊之一,而他是焦點。在那些常常在看他打球的人眼 裡,他應該比聯盟中的其他球員能做到一些更誇張的事。 Then there is Kevin Garnett. His arrival turned one of the worst teams in the league into one of the best teams in recent history. You have to consider him on that basis alone. 然後就是Kevin Garnett了。他的原因是他來到聯盟中最糟的幾支球隊之一,然後把它 變成最近幾年最棒的一支球隊之一。你好像只能從這個事實基礎上去考量。 But poor Garnett -- probably more than the other candidates -- suffers from a very real flaw of conventional basketball statistics: they don't measure defense beyond steals, blocks, and defensive rebounds. So when it's time to tally up his contributions with some numbers, his numbers look smaller than the other candidates, and a lot of what he does best is missed. 但是可憐的KG-也許比其他人選還可憐-受害於籃球數據上一個很要命的缺陷:我們無法 用抄截、火鍋,或是防守籃板以外的數字來衡量防守。所以當需要一些數字來證明他的 貢獻的時候,他的數字比其他人看起來都少了一點,而很多他作的最好的事情就被忽略 了。 Or, it was missed, until Celtic owner Wyc Grousbeck leaked some internal Celtics numbers on the radio in Boston last week. 或者說,它曾經被忽略了,直到Celtics的老闆Wyc Grousbeck上禮拜在Boston的電台洩 漏了一些Celtics內部的數據。 At about the 6:30 mark of this interview on WEEI's Dale and Holley show, Grousbeck says: 在節目上他說; Players that KG is guarding are shooting 13.1% below the league average at their position. So he's guarding power forwards, and they're shooting 52% league-wide, or whatever it is. Guys that he's guarding are shooting 39% all year. That's just KG, one on one, against his man, when he's on the court. 被KG防守的球員命中率比聯盟那個位置的平均命中率低13.1%。所以假使他守的是大前 鋒,而他們在聯盟中平均的命中率是52%,或是隨便多少啦。今年被他守到的傢伙命中 率大約是39%。這只是KG,一對一,在球場上防守對方。 LeBron's guys are shooting 2% below the league average for their position. Kobe's are 3% below. Chris Paul's are 4% below. And KG is keeping people 13% below. In other words, he's snuffing them out. 被Lebron防守的位置大約比聯盟平均命中率低2%。Kobe大約低3%。Chris Paul低個4%。 而KG是低個13%。換句話說,他完全封鎖了對方。 The Celtics are one of the league's most sophisticated teams when it comes to using statistics. A Celtics staffer verified for me that these numbers sound right. Assuming these numbers accurate, I guess we have two things: a nice new set of statistics to support a Kevin Garnett MVP candidacy, and some insight into some ways teams are measuring defensive contributions. 當說到運用統計數據的時候,Celtics是聯盟裡最熟練的幾支隊伍之一。一個Celtics的 成員跟我說這些數字聽起來蠻正確的。假使這些數字是對的,我想我們就有了兩個依據 :一個新的數字概念來支持KG候選MVP,還有一些球隊是怎麼衡量防守上的貢獻的。 (Also, I thought it was interesting that Paul -- who is small for his position, and often plays for the steal, is nevertheless evidently affecting a few more shots than an average defender. USA Today has trotted out a statistical formula that says Paul and Garnett are the first and second most valuable players.) (同時有件關於Paul的事還蠻有趣的-就他的位置來說算小隻,卻常常有抄截,卻沒有明 顯的證據證明他比一個平均的防守者影響了更多一點對手的出手。而USA TODAY才提出了 一個數字公式說Paul和KG是最價值球員的前兩名。) And, as long as we're talking about Kevin Garnett ... 然後,既然我們說到Kevin Garnett…… I'm sure that plenty of NBA fans have thought: Hey, why doesn't my team to what Danny Ainge did last summer, and nab a top superstar to turn the whole squad around in an instant? 我確定很多NBA球迷曾經想過:嘿,為什麼我的球隊不能像Danny Ainge去年夏天作同樣 的事,在好時機抓住一個最好的球星,然後逆轉了整支球隊的戰績? Celtics fan and writer Jonathan Messinger says that going out and grabbing someone like Kevin Garnett just can not happen very often: Celtics球迷兼作家Jonathan Messinger說,要出去抓到一個像KG的球員的事不可能常常 發生: ... here is what you need to remake a team the way the Celtics did: Cap flexibility, young talent, expiring contracts, a high lottery pick in a deep draft, serviceable role players you can live without, jerkface owners in another town summarily dismantling their team, an inept front office in yet another city, a superstar who wants to win badly and knows it won't happen on the team he's given his career to, more young talent you can somehow not trade in the process, a hometown hero to anchor the whole process, and the two acquisitions, along with that anchor, should be at the tail ends of their prime where they're eager to lead, teach and win. Piece of cake, right? …以下是如果你想複製Celtics所作的來重組一支球隊所需要的事:薪資上限空間,年 輕有潛力的菜鳥,要到期的合約,在深度很深的選秀裡一支高順位的籤,你沒有也能存 活的一些耐用的功能性球員,別的城市的球隊老闆想要重組球隊,另外再一支球隊無能 的制服組,一個祈求勝利的超級明星,並且知道在他始終效力的那支球隊是不可能達到 的,更多年輕有潛力的菜鳥在過程中沒被拿來當籌碼,一個家鄉英雄來穩定這整個程序 ,得到兩個球員,加上那個英雄,是在他們生涯黃金時期的尾聲,所以他們渴望領導、 教導還有贏球。聽起來很簡單,不是嗎? Don't forget you need to also get a new assistant coach like Tom Thibodeau to make your team into stout defenders. 還有別忘記你還要得到一個新的助理教練,像Tom Thibodeau一樣把你的球隊變成一支 堅強的防守者。 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 218.166.207.176

04/05 17:34, , 1F
推KG MVP剛拿過 換換口味 拿個年度最佳防守球員吧
04/05 17:34, 1F

04/05 17:34, , 2F
MVP要拚過CP3和KB24不容易,但希望KG能拿個最佳防守球員。
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04/05 17:35, , 3F
樓上~(握)
04/05 17:35, 3F

04/05 17:36, , 4F
(挺)
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04/05 17:36, , 5F
只能推KG了
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04/05 17:39, , 6F
我倒是認為KG的加入關鍵在Allen
04/05 17:39, 6F

04/05 17:49, , 7F
拿個冠軍戒指吧~~~!!!
04/05 17:49, 7F

04/05 17:53, , 8F
希望拿戒指和年度最佳防守球員...^^
04/05 17:53, 8F

04/05 18:37, , 9F
拿個總冠軍賽MVP吧!!!!
04/05 18:37, 9F

04/05 19:25, , 10F
CP3 MVP!! KG 年度最佳防守球員&第一隊&總冠軍賽MVP!!
04/05 19:25, 10F

04/05 19:36, , 11F
這個團隊能湊在一起 真的是很珍貴阿
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04/05 19:49, , 12F
現在團隊不會在意誰該拿什麼獎 他們眼中只有總冠軍
04/05 19:49, 12F

04/05 20:12, , 13F
我們真的慶幸生在可以看到他們這種隊伍的時代!!!!
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04/05 20:21, , 14F
沒有人跟我一樣注意到無能的制服組嗎XD
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04/05 20:32, , 15F
拿冠軍mvp比較重要
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04/05 20:54, , 16F
那就冠軍外加MVP吧!!!!!!!!!!
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04/05 21:06, , 17F
總冠軍賽MVP+1
04/05 21:06, 17F

04/05 22:47, , 18F
推KG
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04/05 22:59, , 19F
雖然我非常愛KG~不過我在想有沒有可能首次3個人拿一個獎
04/05 22:59, 19F

04/05 23:26, , 20F
推中肯文!現在NBA公佈的MVP排名KG已經是第二名了~
04/05 23:26, 20F

04/05 23:49, , 21F
應該加上一點:對方球隊的GM是自己人!!!
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04/06 03:07, , 22F
被防守的命中率其實也不準 因為也要看整個球隊的防守
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04/06 03:10, , 23F
拿個冠軍戒指吧~~~!!! +1
04/06 03:10, 23F
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