[情報] John Sickels 2013 Top 20 prospects

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http://tinyurl.com/brs9g9v St. Louis Cardinals Top 20 Prospects for 2013 1) Oscar Taveras, OF, Grade A: One of the easiest grades in the book. Outstanding hitter for power and average, and he improved his baserunning and defense. Next great Cardinals star? Seems like it to me. 2) Shelby Miller, RHP, Grade A: Terrific second half of the season saved his A rating from last year. Still looks like a rotation anchor to me, just needs to stay healthy. 3) Carlos Martinez, RHP, Grade A-: Borderline B+: Still has some rough edges but he made enough progress that I'm comfortable bumping him up a notch. Like Miller, he can be a top of the rotation guy if he avoids injury. He's moved very quickly and if I were the Cardinals I think I would slow things down a little and avoid bringing him to the majors in 2013 unless nobody else is available. 4) Trevor Rosenthal, RHP, Grade B+: Borderline A-: Another very live arm who could pitch at the top of the rotation eventually, or perhaps become a power closer. 5) Michael Wacha, RHP, Grade B+: Exceeded expectations in pro ball, granted the sample is small, but still. . .40/4 K/BB in 21 innings? Dang. I thought he was a future number three starter, but if he maintains the uptick in velocity he showed in pro ball, he's another guy you can build the rotation around. 6) Kolten Wong, 2B, Grade B: Solid but unspectacular season in Double-A, with his defense looking quite good and a decent hitting line. Looked good to me in Arizona Fall League. I still see him as a future regular second baseman who hits for average, gets on base, and provides a steady glove. 7) Matt Adams, 1B, Grade B: Poorly-timed injury, but he destroyed Triple-A pitching and given his track record I think he will eventually adapt to the majors. Like Wong, I don't see him as a star, but rather as a solid regular. 8) Tyrell Jenkins, RHP, Grade B-: His upside is as high as the guys above him, but injuries and command problems short-circuited him in Low-A. Disappointing, but the talent is still here. 9) Anthony Garcia, OF, Grade B-: I absolutely do not understand why this guy doesn't get more press. His power is very real, and even marginal improvements in the strike zone would result in a huge breakout. Crushed Low-A pitching. 10) Carson Kelly, 3B, Grade B-: Highest-ceiling and youngest of the third basemen drafted in 2012 by the Cards. Will also take the most time to develop. Needs more patience and defensive work. Profile is similar to Diamondbacks prospect Matt Davidson at the same stage of his career. 11) Patrick Wisdom, 3B, Grade B-: Excellent glove, and he hit better in the New York-Penn League than he did in college. Expect power and patience, we'll have to see about the batting average. 12) Stephen Piscotty, 3B, Grade B-: Nice solid line drive hitter, but he doesn't have Wisdom's glove nor Kelly's pure upside. That's a problem, since Piscotty's bat won't look as good in the outfield or at first base unless he boosts home run production. 13) Greg Garcia, 2B-SS, Grade C+: Wong's double play partner at Springfield is a strong yet overlooked prospect in his own right with very sound on-base skills. Stretched at shortstop, he's better at second base but that's Wong's position. 14) Seth Maness, RHP, Grade C+: Truly outstanding command helps mediocre velocity play up. Seems like he can be a sound inning-eater to me, or at worst an attractive trade chit for another team. 15) John Gast, LHP, Grade C+: A good arm from the left side, but erratic with his command and more likely to fit in the bullpen than the rotation for St. Louis. 16) Starlin Rodriguez, 2B, Grade C+: Another overlooked prospect who would get a lot more attention if he played in a weaker farm system. Good fielder, hit for average with some pop, strong performance in High-A. Good showing in Double-A will get him on the conveyer belt towards an opportunity of Wong doesn't pan out. 17) Ryan Jackson, SS, Grade C+: Very sound defensive player and can surprise you with his hitting at times. If you really need a shortstop, you could do a lot worse than just sticking Jackson in the lineup, hit him low in the order, and enjoy his fundamental play. More value for a real team than a fantasy one. 18) Maikel Cleto, RHP, Grade C+: Gotta respect the arm strength. Will he ever throw strikes well enough for the 100 MPH fastball to matter? 19) Tyler Lyons, LHP, Grade C+: Sleeper prospect who has more talent and pitched better than his 4.00+ ERA in Triple-A indicates. Would be a sneaky rotation candidate for some teams due to strike-throwing ability, but he gets lost in the crowd here. 20) Breyvic Valera, INF, Grade C+: Another sound infielder, this one advancing to Low-A for 2013. Hits for average, defense is promising at second base, could develop more power than people expect. OTHER GRADE C+: Tim Cooney, LHP; Victor De Leon, RHP; James Ramsey, OF; Boone Whiting, RHP OTHERS: Steve Bean, C; Michael Blazek, RHP; Keith Butler, RHP; Adron Chambers, OF; Victor De Leon, RHP; Adam Ehrlich, C; Eric Fornataro, RHP; Sam Freeman, LHP; Silfredo Garcia, RHP; Sam Gaviglio, RHP; Pete Kozma, SS: Jake Lemmerman, INF; Dixon Llorrens, RHP; C.J. McElroy, OF; Mike O'Neill, OF; Jorge Rondon, RHP; Kevin Siegrist, LHP; Lee Stoppelman, LHP; Jordan Swagerty, RHP; Charlie Tilson, OF; Colin Walsh, OF-INF What can you say? This is one hell of a farm system. There is impact talent. There are future stars. And there are a lot of guys who project as solid role players to back them up. The pitching. . .you have four guys in Miller, Martinez, Rosenthal, and Wacha who could be and should be rotation anchors. Jenkins has that kind of talent too, if he can refine it. There is a ton of pitching behind them, with a good mixture of strike-throwers (Maness, Lyons, Boone Whiting) and guys with hot arms. The Cardinals should never want for good relief pitching, and if even if some of the top guys get hurt or don't pan out, one of the efficiency experts could step in. As history shows (Oakland's Four Aces, Generation K of the Mets, the Royals a couple of years ago), having a great batch of pitching prospects is no guarantee of success. There will be injury attrition, and someone will be a disappointment. But the point is to gather as many pitchers as possible to provide depth to cover for the inevitable failures, and the Cardinals are masters at doing this. But the Cardinals also have lots of hitting to go with the pitching. Taveras will be a star, Wong and Adams look like regulars, and there are a bunch of guys who should be role players or strong contributors at least. The 2012 draft brought in additional bats, with particular depth at third base. If those guys thrive in 2013, this list will still look strong next year even if the top guys graduate. Overall, this is an amazing system, a prospect factory. They find guys at big colleges, they find guys at small colleges, they find guys in junior college, they find and develop high school guys, they find and develop Latin American guys. They do everything. 有請Rasmus大大講解,剛好看到的,就貼上來了 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 111.242.49.10 ※ 編輯: ByronBuxton 來自: 111.242.11.56 (12/24 22:59)

12/24 23:27, , 1F
咦?
12/24 23:27, 1F

12/24 23:29, , 2F
我真搞不懂為什麼Anthony Garcia排名這麼高
12/24 23:29, 2F

12/25 00:05, , 3F
會是因為power嗎???
12/25 00:05, 3F

12/25 00:12, , 4F
好強大的農場..~
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12/25 00:14, , 5F
當然強大,BA之前chat都說紅雀農場當今無人能敵
12/25 00:14, 5F

12/25 00:33, , 6F
雙A~ A_A
12/25 00:33, 6F

12/25 00:39, , 7F
參考即可。翻兩年前的Craig、Lynn都是C+
12/25 00:39, 7F

12/25 01:14, , 8F
wow好強耶
12/25 01:14, 8F

12/25 02:11, , 9F
兩三年前明明還很貧濟的農場..真的是今非昔比
12/25 02:11, 9F

12/25 04:56, , 10F
Sickels的grade是會一直修正的 最好的例子就是Holliday
12/25 04:56, 10F

12/25 04:58, , 11F
也不能說修正(太好聽了) 用看走眼可能會比較貼切 XD
12/25 04:58, 11F

12/25 06:24, , 12F
連Bauer,d'Anaud都才A-
12/25 06:24, 12F

12/25 06:25, , 13F
我們有2A,1A-實在是太威了!
12/25 06:25, 13F

12/25 16:36, , 14F
摸大哥要來當打擊助理教練?
12/25 16:36, 14F

12/25 17:01, , 15F
的確可以說是"修正" OK啦
12/25 17:01, 15F

12/25 19:45, , 16F
雖然知道你們是穩進聯盟TOP3的農場
12/25 19:45, 16F

12/25 19:46, , 17F
但是還是要說 你們太噁心了(稱讚意謂)
12/25 19:46, 17F

12/25 20:47, , 18F
Rosenthal的成長幅度真的滿兇猛的
12/25 20:47, 18F

12/25 20:47, , 19F
不愧是Rasmus大重點關注的新秀
12/25 20:47, 19F

12/25 21:37, , 20F
好到令人噁心的農場...
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12/25 21:54, , 21F
sorry借問一下 好的農場是有一隻A就很棒了嗎?
12/25 21:54, 21F

12/26 21:42, , 22F
一隻不夠吧,前幾年我們有過Raz + Wallace兩隻A-
12/26 21:42, 22F

12/26 21:44, , 23F
而且還要有深度,我們之前農場都是算完前三名就沒了
12/26 21:44, 23F

12/26 21:44, , 24F
現在是進步很多了
12/26 21:44, 24F

12/26 21:46, , 25F
順便提一下,最近簽下多明尼加右投手Alex Reyes
12/26 21:46, 25F

12/26 21:47, , 26F
簽約金$950K是今年多明尼加新秀第二高,聽說球速最快
12/26 21:47, 26F

12/26 21:47, , 27F
達到94 mph
12/26 21:47, 27F

12/27 11:16, , 28F
農場的重點是depth A的不一定要很多 可是不能出現太大
12/27 11:16, 28F

12/27 11:18, , 29F
落差 舉例來說 如果有個農場有4個A級新秀但是連一個B
12/27 11:18, 29F

12/27 11:18, , 30F
都沒有 這種農場一點都不好
12/27 11:18, 30F

12/27 16:35, , 31F
衝阿 小紅鳥
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12/31 21:50, , 32F
小木匠開始練二壘
12/31 21:50, 32F

01/01 02:03, , 33F
水喔! 第三
01/01 02:03, 33F

01/09 18:33, , 34F
farm system 我們第一名
01/09 18:33, 34F

01/09 23:07, , 35F
這甚麼他X的噁心農場深度啊-_-
01/09 23:07, 35F

01/15 09:44, , 36F
當然噁心了 龜派氣功高中畢業的都只能排第六了.....
01/15 09:44, 36F

01/15 16:42, , 37F
龜派氣功高中是蝦米
01/15 16:42, 37F

01/15 23:27, , 38F
Wong的高中名字叫Kamehameha 就是龜派氣功的發音
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01/15 23:27, , 39F
^讀
01/15 23:27, 39F

01/16 13:29, , 40F
挖靠 這麼酷的名字XDDDD
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01/16 13:29, , 41F
感謝解答
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01/17 00:45, , 42F
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01/17 00:58, , 43F
KOZMA加油啊
01/17 00:58, 43F

01/17 11:49, , 44F
嗯... Kozma的防守比Ryan Jackson好?
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