[閒聊] 紐時:霍格華茲無法拋開對JK的爭論

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就剛剛用英文 Hogwarts legacy 去google 就有發現一些西方媒體 例如CNN、紐約時報等 都有對於霍格華茲的傳承的報導 其中紐約時報的標題 讓我感到有點興趣 https://www.nytimes.com/2023/02/09/arts/hogwarts-legacy-jk-rowling.html Hogwarts Legacy Can’t Cast Aside Debate Over J.K. Rowling 霍格華茲的傳承無法拋開對J.K.羅琳的爭論 英文內文比較長沒有仔細看 不確定是不是中性報導 只是看到標題感覺滿有意思的 所以就分享一下 大家有興趣可以看看、討論 補充: 應推文要求轉貼內文 不確定有無遺漏字或亂碼: The video game is the latest battleground over the “Harry Potter” author’s co mments on transgender issues, with fans and gamers divided over whether they sho uld play it at all. The conversation about the video game Hogwarts Legacy has been dominated by soci al issues rather than spell casting or Hippogriff taming.Credit...Warner Bros. G ames The developer behind a highly anticipated video game set in the “Harry Potter” universe, but a century before the familiar story, was always going to have to confront the expectations of a zealous fandom. There was the challenge of creating an engaging experience beyond the well-known tale of the Boy Who Lived, and the risk of disappointing fans by omitting belov ed aspects of the wizarding world. (Sorry, no quidditch.) But when the developer, Avalanche Software, began work several years ago on an i mmersive role-playing game set in Hogwarts, it may not have anticipated that per haps the biggest challenge of all would stem from the series’s celebrated autho r. The conversation among fans and gamers as Hogwarts Legacy approaches its offici al release date on Friday has been dominated not by talk about spell casting or Hippogriff taming, but by J.K. Rowling’s remarks on transgender issues. Potter fans have been grappling with those comments for years, especially afte r Rowling published an extensive essay in 2020 in which she said a movement of transgender activists was “seeking to erode ‘woman’ as a political and biolo gical class and offering cover to predators.” “I want trans women to be safe,” she wrote. “At the same time, I do not want to make natal girls and women less safe.” Fans who considered Rowling’s views odious and anti-trans — a sentiment she de nies — clashed with those who sympathized with them, while others argued that t he artist could be separated from her art. Some pledged to cease spending money on the franchise, which includes a theatrical production and the “Fantastic Bea sts” movies. Hogwarts Legacy brought another dedicated community into the fold: gamers, a gro up not associated with soft-spokenness online. In recent weeks, they have used social media to confront one another over issues of transgender rights. Some have pledged to boycott the game, while others have embraced it or defended their right to play it without claiming specific gender politics. “The controversy is very loud,” said Alex Casilio, a YouTube creator who has f ollowed Hogwarts Legacy throughout its yearslong development, though he question ed whether the debate would have a measurable impact on sales. “It’s a game th at got very popular very fast, and most people aren’t into the controversy.” J.K.Rowling’s Controversial Comments The “Harry Potter” author’s statements on transgender issues have fueled hea ted discussions among fans of the book series and beyond. A Conflicted Fandom: Rowling’s views forced some “Harry Potter” fans to figu re out how to distance themselves from the author who created the beloved wiza rding world. Quidditch No More: The real-life version of the sport, which prominently featur es in the series, changed its name to “Quadball.” Rowling’s views on transge nder issues played a role. Daniel Radcliffe’s Criticism: The lead actor in the “Harry Potter” films i s one of several cast members who voiced their support for transgender rights in response to Rowling’s comments. Days before its official release, Hogwarts Legacy became the single-player game with the highest number of concurrent viewers on the streaming site Twitch, acc ording to the analytics site Streams Charts, beating titles like Cyberpunk 2077 and Elden Ring. Still, the disagreements over whether to engage with the newest entry in the wiz arding world have sowed chaos on internet forums. On the game’s Reddit forum, t he moderators reinstated restrictions on discussing Rowling, writing that allow ing such conversation “quickly spirals into bigoted language towards LGBTQ+ ind ividuals.” On an official Discord forum, a moderator pleaded with users to “pa use on the JK topic.” Like other role-playing games, Hogwarts Legacy allows players to shape their ava tars’ appearance, intertwining issues of identity with the gameplay. And some p layers have drawn the conclusion that a new, nonplayable character is transgend er, based on a line of dialogue in which the character — Sirona Ryan, who runs the Three Broomsticks pub — said it had taken her classmates a moment to “re alize I was actually a witch, not a wizard.” Set in the 1890s — a century before Harry’s story — the game allows players t o become students at Hogwarts, where they can wear their house robes, navigate t hrough the castle and practice spells.Credit...Warner Bros. Games Avalanche — which is owned by Warner Bros., the studio behind the eight “Harry Potter” movies and the “Fantastic Beasts” series — has walked a fine line, establishing distance between Rowling and the game while acknowledging her centr ality to the franchise. Warner Bros. declined several times to set up an interview with the game’s deve lopers. When asked direct questions about the creative process and Rowling’s co ntributions, it pointed to marketing materials. “J.K. Rowling is not involved in the creation of the game, but as creator of th e wizarding world and one of the world’s greatest storytellers, her extraordina ry body of writing is the foundation of all projects in the wizarding world,” e xplains a list of frequently asked questions. “This is not a new story from J. K. Rowling, however we have collaborated closely with her team on all aspects of the game to ensure it remains in line with the magical experiences fans expect. ” It is unclear how much Rowling will financially benefit from the game; a spokesm an for Rowling declined to comment on its reception. In December, after Jessie E arl, a transgender gaming commentator, tweeted that it was “harmful” to suppor t Hogwarts Legacy, Rowling used the term “purethink” to criticize the argume nt. In an interview with IGN, an entertainment website, Alan Tew, the game’s direct or, addressed questions about Rowling by saying, “When we bumped into those cha llenges, we went back and refocused on the stuff that we really care about.” In a separate article about Sirona Ryan, the character players have concluded is transgender, a representative for the developer told IGN, “The team felt that it was very important to create a game that is representative of the rich and d iverse world of Harry Potter as well as the groups of people who play games, whi ch includes the LGBTQIA+ community.” Set in the 1890s, the game allows players to become students at Hogwarts, where they can wear their house robes, navigate through the castle and practice spells . Many details are pulled from Rowling’s texts (spells like Crucio, the torture c urse, and Avada Kedavra, the killing curse, will be familiar), but some aspects of the lore are newly invented: Daedalian Keys, the game explains, have been con jured to protect locked cabinets at Hogwarts. Several gaming publications and streamers have also been cautious discussing the game, making it clear that they have qualms about Rowling’s views. Several par agraphs into IGN’s positive review, which calls the spell-casting combat “stu pefyingly good,” sits a disclaimer box that acknowledges the “elephant in the room.” “As critics, our job is to answer the question of whether or not we find Hogwar ts Legacy to be fun to play and why,” the disclaimer says. “Whether it’s ethi cal to play is a separate but still very important question.” NME, a British pop culture website, gave Hogwarts Legacy three out of five stars and noted that its review was “not an endorsement of Rowling’s opinions or comments,” while linking to L.G.B.T.Q. charities. And a duo called Girlfriend Reviews, who were criticized for streaming the game on Twitch, responded by emphasizing that they had not paid for it and were rais ing money for the Trevor Project, a suicide prevention group for L.G.B.T.Q. youn g people. Others in the gaming community have drawn a harder line. “If you purchase this game — if you praise its qualities and encourage others to ‘support the developers’ or ‘treat yourself to a guilty pleasure’ — you are making a choice that will harm the transgender community,” Percy Ranson wr ote for GamesHub, an Australian gaming news site, noting that they are transgend er. Rowling has continued to opine on transgender issues since her 2020 essay. Last month, she posted a tweet likening a meme in which a character holding a gun t hreatens a TERF, or trans-exclusionary radical feminist, to an illustration of a 20th-century suffragist being tortured. She also rallied in opposition to Sc ottish legislation intending to make it easier for people to legally change the ir gender. The author had no creative input in Hogwarts Legacy, according to Troy Leavitt, who said on Casilio’s channel last year that he was a lead designer and senio r producer on the game for three years before leaving Avalanche in 2021. The stu dio had the latitude, he said, to pick and choose the aspects fans were most int erested in. “This isn’t a game about pushing agendas or anything,” said Leavitt, who decl ined an interview request. “This is a game about delivering to the fans that wi zarding world experience that you always wanted to have when you were reading th e books or watching the films. That’s it.” Perhaps the game’s developers wish they had invented a charm to tame the intern et. “Every big ‘Harry Potter’ thing turns into an L.G.B.T.Q. conversation,” said Asher Chelder, who works on social media for MuggleNet, a Harry Potter fan site , and is transgender. But this backlash has seemed heightened compared with the response to the releas e of the third “Fantastic Beasts” movie last year, said Chelder, who is lookin g forward to playing Hogwarts Legacy. Despite some calls for a boycott of the franchise, “Beasts” — which credits R owling as a screenplay writer — grossed more than $400 million globally. “Curs ed Child,” the play Rowling is credited on, is running in six countries. -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 182.233.7.224 (臺灣) ※ 文章網址: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/C_Chat/M.1675996869.A.B68.html

02/10 10:42, 1年前 , 1F
紐約時報不就是當初刊登說盼望沒有JK的哈利波特?
02/10 10:42, 1F

02/10 10:42, 1年前 , 2F
比起開學連殺六人,竟然比較在意作者的爭論?
02/10 10:42, 2F

02/10 10:43, 1年前 , 3F
錯 是SJW無法拋開對JK的爭論 所以挑軟柿子來啃
02/10 10:43, 3F

02/10 10:43, 1年前 , 4F
不需要拋開阿 有話題有流量 賺 原本我連有這個遊戲
02/10 10:43, 4F

02/10 10:43, 1年前 , 5F
都不知道 現在準備要來玩了
02/10 10:43, 5F

02/10 10:43, 1年前 , 6F
紐約時報的立場很明顯吧? 當初那一篇也是從他們這裡出
02/10 10:43, 6F

02/10 10:43, 1年前 , 7F
來的
02/10 10:43, 7F

02/10 10:44, 1年前 , 8F
紐時當初還有編輯撰文說哈利波特沒有作者勒
02/10 10:44, 8F

02/10 10:44, 1年前 , 9F
整起事件看下來很像是SJW想逼遊戲公司出來切割JK羅琳
02/10 10:44, 9F

02/10 10:44, 1年前 , 10F
比較好奇當初手遊怎麼就沒鬧那麼大
02/10 10:44, 10F

02/10 10:44, 1年前 , 11F
要拋開JK就自己做遊戲啊,看看能賣多少
02/10 10:44, 11F

02/10 10:45, 1年前 , 12F
這點挺噁心的 不就是叫別人跟著一起霸凌嗎
02/10 10:45, 12F

02/10 10:45, 1年前 , 13F
英國學校裡一堆有色人種被不射咒攻擊這才算問題吧
02/10 10:45, 13F

02/10 10:45, 1年前 , 14F
遊戲公司哪可能切割羅琳,這款賺爛了
02/10 10:45, 14F

02/10 10:45, 1年前 , 15F
遊戲公司早就切割了,但是該給JK的錢不可能不給
02/10 10:45, 15F

02/10 10:45, 1年前 , 16F
要怎麼切 授權金一直往羅琳存摺裡灌進去欸
02/10 10:45, 16F

02/10 10:45, 1年前 , 17F
手遊沒熱度阿 這群垃圾就只會寄生當然挑肥的看起來好欺
02/10 10:45, 17F

02/10 10:45, 1年前 , 18F
負的
02/10 10:45, 18F

02/10 10:46, 1年前 , 19F
標題這麼明顯
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02/10 10:46, 1年前 , 20F
切割羅琳萬一她不爽收回版權,遊戲製作人還要去土下
02/10 10:46, 20F

02/10 10:46, 1年前 , 21F
座求她
02/10 10:46, 21F

02/10 10:46, 1年前 , 22F
JK忙著數錢
02/10 10:46, 22F

02/10 10:47, 1年前 , 23F
你要粉絲忍住不買這款遊戲根本做不到
02/10 10:47, 23F

02/10 10:47, 1年前 , 24F
老實說我看不懂為什麼LGBT等等等會跟這遊戲拉上關係
02/10 10:47, 24F

02/10 10:47, 1年前 , 25F
真的無法拋開,越來越多人有興趣了
02/10 10:47, 25F

02/10 10:47, 1年前 , 26F
魔法學院的遊戲不難做,但沒哈利波特元素誰要玩
02/10 10:47, 26F

02/10 10:48, 1年前 , 27F
這遊戲我玩起來就是在霍格華茲這個世界探索的樂趣
02/10 10:48, 27F

02/10 10:48, 1年前 , 28F
SJW把JK羅琳標誌成要打倒的敵人象徵啊
02/10 10:48, 28F

02/10 10:48, 1年前 , 29F
錢都被JK賺走 喔氣氣氣氣
02/10 10:48, 29F

02/10 10:48, 1年前 , 30F
02/10 10:48, 30F

02/10 10:48, 1年前 , 31F
當初紐時的文章
02/10 10:48, 31F

02/10 10:48, 1年前 , 32F
可是怎麼會變成這種SJW大戰== 看不懂
02/10 10:48, 32F

02/10 10:48, 1年前 , 33F
光講男權太空泛而且容易招來大反彈 找一個知名作家戰
02/10 10:48, 33F

02/10 10:49, 1年前 , 34F
紐時還啥的總編不是一個黑人肥婆說JK沒資格當HP的
02/10 10:49, 34F

02/10 10:49, 1年前 , 35F
作者嗎
02/10 10:49, 35F

02/10 10:49, 1年前 , 36F
怎麼看都比較划算
02/10 10:49, 36F

02/10 10:49, 1年前 , 37F
原本我認為是因為魔法覺醒背後是網易才不衝它
02/10 10:49, 37F

02/10 10:49, 1年前 , 38F
紐時:想像沒有作者的哈利波特
02/10 10:49, 38F

02/10 10:49, 1年前 , 39F
直到目前為止 JK的戶頭仍然叮$叮$叮進帳現金
02/10 10:49, 39F
還有 79 則推文
還有 1 段內文
02/10 11:12, 1年前 , 119F
除非她腦袋撞壞了 哈哈
02/10 11:12, 119F

02/10 11:13, 1年前 , 120F
SJW都有瘋子跑去抗議耶穌是女的不是男的了
02/10 11:13, 120F

02/10 11:13, 1年前 , 121F
你倒是翻譯翻譯啊
02/10 11:13, 121F

02/10 11:18, 1年前 , 122F
看完了 應該還算中立啦 就是把這款遊戲只是因為原作是jk
02/10 11:18, 122F

02/10 11:18, 1年前 , 123F
所以一堆人氣氣氣這件事情寫的很長而已
02/10 11:18, 123F

02/10 11:18, 1年前 , 124F
感謝他們的宣傳
02/10 11:18, 124F

02/10 11:21, 1年前 , 125F
sjw滾去自己做你們政確的原創啦
02/10 11:21, 125F

02/10 11:23, 1年前 , 126F
真的笑死,結果罵SJW比挺SJW還好賺錢,真的有夠可悲
02/10 11:23, 126F

02/10 11:23, 1年前 , 127F
的族群
02/10 11:23, 127F

02/10 11:23, 1年前 , 128F
JK很爽阿 還有PO拿鈔票擦淚的圖
02/10 11:23, 128F

02/10 11:25, 1年前 , 129F
JK拿鈔票拿到手軟,而且事後發生的一堆事也證明她當初
02/10 11:25, 129F

02/10 11:25, 1年前 , 130F
的顧慮是對的,現在就是看這群SJW當小丑當到什麼時候
02/10 11:25, 130F

02/10 11:26, 1年前 , 131F
羅琳當初版權簽的超硬 怎麼切割
02/10 11:26, 131F

02/10 11:31, 1年前 , 132F
本來JK領錢還得費神費力參與製作 現在更好躺著就能賺
02/10 11:31, 132F

02/10 11:37, 1年前 , 133F
直接轉貼是什麼廢文
02/10 11:37, 133F

02/10 11:43, 1年前 , 134F
師爺你給翻譯翻譯
02/10 11:43, 134F

02/10 11:45, 1年前 , 135F
遊戲公司:謝謝sjw 爽賺一波流量
02/10 11:45, 135F

02/10 11:45, 1年前 , 136F
講的好像JK有在霍格華茲裡排擠Transgender一樣
02/10 11:45, 136F

02/10 11:45, 1年前 , 137F
jk:我真的超想哭 錢又變多了
02/10 11:45, 137F

02/10 11:46, 1年前 , 138F
反正JK還是躺著數鈔票 SJW終究是沒有創作能力的losers
02/10 11:46, 138F

02/10 11:52, 1年前 , 139F
這遊戲明明就很舔了結果還是被SJW抵制,然後大賣還
02/10 11:52, 139F

02/10 11:52, 1年前 , 140F
不是靠JK小說的世界觀= =
02/10 11:52, 140F

02/10 11:52, 1年前 , 141F
你不翻也沒心得那轉過來幹嘛
02/10 11:52, 141F

02/10 11:52, 1年前 , 142F
SJW自己去寫IP不會嗎
02/10 11:52, 142F

02/10 11:56, 1年前 , 143F
紐時整天在蹭熱度,哈利波特作者又不是紐時,垃圾報
02/10 11:56, 143F

02/10 11:59, 1年前 , 144F
JK:我都沒辦法自己創作,只能閒來無事去刷簿子
02/10 11:59, 144F

02/10 11:59, 1年前 , 145F
真是無趣的人生啊嗚嗚嗚嗚嗚
02/10 11:59, 145F

02/10 12:01, 1年前 , 146F
你都拿霍格華茲當標題了還想拋開JK羅琳喔,太天真了吧。但
02/10 12:01, 146F

02/10 12:01, 1年前 , 147F
我覺得遊戲做成這樣本來就只是嘴上說切割而已啦。
02/10 12:01, 147F

02/10 12:02, 1年前 , 148F
對 無法 所以支持正義的jk 因為jk就是正義
02/10 12:02, 148F

02/10 12:02, 1年前 , 149F
(我不是說遊戲爛,而是以世界觀來說算有誠意,但這就更難
02/10 12:02, 149F

02/10 12:02, 1年前 , 150F
切割了)
02/10 12:02, 150F

02/10 12:10, 1年前 , 151F
遲早遊戲業會知道,不管SJW賺得會更多,就像好萊塢放
02/10 12:10, 151F

02/10 12:10, 1年前 , 152F
棄中國一樣
02/10 12:10, 152F

02/10 12:39, 1年前 , 153F
吵越兇羅琳轉越多,被抵制難過到用支票擦眼淚喔
02/10 12:39, 153F

02/10 13:22, 1年前 , 154F
事實證明,沒人屌你們SJW,倒不如說大家超級討厭
02/10 13:22, 154F

02/10 13:44, 1年前 , 155F
原文貼的時候可以幫換行嗎 單字被分開看得很痛苦
02/10 13:44, 155F

02/10 13:44, 1年前 , 156F
抱歉沒發現有原本連結 當我沒說了
02/10 13:44, 156F

02/10 13:57, 1年前 , 157F
吃不到葡萄說葡萄酸
02/10 13:57, 157F

02/10 15:58, 1年前 , 158F
沒翻譯po三小==
02/10 15:58, 158F
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