[規則] 推翻蘇丹 FAQ

看板BoardGame作者puzzlez (帕索)時間12年前 (2013/11/07 23:05)推噓4(4推 0噓 7→)

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因為有些問題一直擱在心裡很不好受，於是問了一下作者，沒想到超快回覆。就在這裡貼一下，也許你們也有類似疑問... 1. Players "may not" switch with a player who switched with them on their previous turn. If a-b-c-d-e-f-g play this game and it's E's turn, then What does the "previous turn" mean? 1) D's turn 2) the last turn that E's card has been switched. for example A switched with E and , B switched with E and, C switched with E, E may not switch with C now. Which one is correct? A: It means that you can't switch with a player whose most recent action was to switch with you. In your example, you have the rule correctly: E may not switch with C, but he may switch with anyone else (including A and . But if it goes around the table one more time and now C does something else (like peeking at a card), on E's next turn he can now switch with C. Essentially, you can't reverse a switch until everyone around the table has had one more turn. (不能與最近一次與你交換角色牌的玩家，交換其角色牌) 2. Would the detained state will be gone because of guard's death? A: No, the player is still in jail until their next turn. (拘禁卡不會因守衛死亡而消失) 3. If everyone is known, except the Vizier, Could the Vizier choose the team to support without forcing another player? A: Yes. Same thing with the Fortune Teller if there aren't any hidden cards for her to peek at. Even though the first part of their action fails because they don't have a valid target, the other part still happens. (若其他所有角色公開，大官翻開後可只選擇陣營。占卜師亦同。) 4. Could a detained slave be captured by the slave driver? A: yes. The Slave Driver can capture a detained Slave; in this case, the Slave is both Captured and Detained until his next turn, after which he will only be Captured. (So if the Slave Driver captures a Slave and is then immediately killed by an Assassin, the Slave is still Detained). (一個奴隸可同時被監禁及捕捉) 補一下bgg裡的faq Q: What happens to the status card/token when you switch with a Detained or Captured player? A: You cannot switch with a Detained or Captured player. 你不可以和被拘禁或被捕捉的玩家交換身份。 Q: Can the Vizier force a Detained or Captured player to use their action? A: No. 大官不能強迫被拘禁或被捕捉的玩家執行行動。 Q: Can you kill a Detained or Captured player? A: Yes. 你可以殺掉被拘禁或被捕捉的玩家。 Q: Can the Slave Driver capture a Slave (or attempt to hunt a hidden character) who has been Detained by a Guard? A: Yes. The two effects are cumulative (so the Slave will still be Detained even if the Slave Driver is assassinated before the Slave's turn), but the Detained card/token will be removed the next time the Slave would ordinarily get a turn, even though his turn is skipped due to being Captured. 奴隸販子可以捕捉已被守衛拘禁的奴隸，即使被捕捉的奴隸輪到他時無法行動，但仍可去掉拘禁卡。 Q: If an Assassin attempts to kill a Guard sitting next to him, can the Guard use his reaction to defend himself and kill the Assassin instead? A: No, Guards can protect other Guards, but can never protect themselves, even if they happen to be sitting next to the Assassin. 守衛不能保護自己，殺手可以成功殺掉坐在他旁邊的守衛，除非殺手或守衛的旁邊還有另一位守衛。 Q: If someone attempts to switch with the Sultan, can he reveal himself by taking the throne as a reaction, in order to prevent the switch? A: No, a switch is considered to have been made as soon as it's announced, so the former Sultan is no longer in possession of that card. (But if the other player was still thinking about maybe switching, but hadn't made up his mind yet, then the Sultan could reveal himself, of course.) 蘇丹必須在其他玩家做動作之前或做完之後，才可以打開身份牌加冕。 Q: Is it legal to "peek at no one" if all players' cards are already face up? A: Yes, in the unlikely event that all characters are known but the round hasn't ended, peeking at no one is legal, and equivalent to passing. This is particularly important for the Vizier, as if all players' cards are face up, he has no legal action target and would be forced to hide if not allowed to pass. 輪到你時可以pass。 Q: What happens if only two Slaves are left alive, the Guards are all dead, and the Sultan is the spare? No one will swap with the Sultan card and the round will never end. A: If all players have their cards revealed and there are no living Loyalists or Loyalist-aligned Neutrals, then the round is a Rebel victory and all the surviving players score 2 points. If there are still players with their cards hidden, then continue playing until everyone either reveals themselves or is Assassinated. 所有角色牌都打開，且場上都是革命軍，中立角色也沒有支持保皇軍時(蘇丹位於正中央) 此時紅軍立即獲勝。 Q: Is "The Belly Dancer"'s action:"Dance" need to be use to activate or it is still active even if dancer player choose peek action? A: The dancer is always dancing as long as she is known. So once she's already face up, she can peek and still be dancing. 肚皮舞孃一旦翻開後就會持續跳舞的狀態直到蓋回為止，且翻開期間不會佔用往後回合的行動。再補充... 因為很冗長所以我直接說結論，想看原文的請自行看到最後，懶的看就看中文部分就行了。 1. 如果A跟E換、B跟A換、C跟B換、D跟C換，此時D的手上是E先前拿到的牌，那麼E是否可以跟D交換，拿回自己原本的牌？可以。因為最近一次和E交換的人是A，所以除了A之外，E可以跟任何一個人交換手牌。 2. 奴隸販子捕捉隱藏奴隸成功之後，是否可以捕捉公開奴隸？可以，因為成功捕捉隱藏奴隸之後可獲得額外的回合，所以可以捕捉公開奴隸或調查別人身份等等的行動。 3. 被拘禁或被捕捉的奴隸，是否可以回應其他奴隸的登高一呼？不可以。被拘禁或被捕捉的角色無法行動或回應。 4. 大官強迫隱藏的蘇丹執行能力時，加冕卡要放在大官面前還是下一位玩家面前？大官面前。 1. Swap Rule Problem again... If A swap with E B swap with A C swap with B D swap with C now, D has the E's initial card... Could E swap with D? Yes. The same card can come back to the same player within one orbit of the table, you just can't swap with the same person who swapped with you. 2. Could the slave driver capture an opened slave after capturing a hidden slave? Yes, but that ends his turn. When he successfully captures a hidden slave, he gets another turn; he can then hunt or capture or peek, as he likes. He could even go into hiding, though it would have to be an unusual situation for you to want to hunt a Slave and then immediately go into hiding and release him. 3. Could the detained or captured slave take the reaction to join an uprising started by another slave? For example, A(a hidden slave) B(a detained and hidden slave) C(a detained and hidden slave) A start an uprising and B, C take the reaction, B and C displace the detained card in their turns and win. Is that OK? No, you can't take any action or reaction while detained. 4. Where we should put the 'Coronation Card' when the Vizier reveals the Sultan? Right before the Vizier or the next player after the Vizier? (We think the answer is the former) The Coronation card goes with the Vizier (or "right before" as you say), i.e. the Loyalists will win if the Sultan is still revealed and alive at the BEGINNING of the Vizier's next turn (before the Vizier can act again). -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 180.176.74.222

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