[閒聊] Warwick來信通知TOEFL和簽證問題

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這是University of Warwick針對ETS最近發佈的變更的公告, (看來W校效率算滿好的XD) 提供給板友參考。 原文如下: Dear XXX I am writing with an update on UK Visas and Immigration (UKVI) – formerly UK Border Agency (UKBA) - and English Language Tests offered by ETS. ETS announced on Thursday 17 April that it has taken the decision not to renew its licence as a provider of Secure English Language Tests (SELT). The Home Office subsequently confirmed that it will no longer accept any ETS tests – including TOEFL – as evidence of English Language competency when considering Tier 4 Visa applications. Please note, therefore, that if you require a Tier 4 visa to enter the UK and begin your degree programme but have only a TOEFL certificate as evidence of your English Language competency, the UKVI will not issue the Visa to you. As such, the University of Warwick will not be able to issue a Confirmation of Acceptance of Studies (CAS) to any student in this situation. If you do require a Tier 4 visa and have only a TOEFL certificate as evidence of your English Language Competency, you will need to take an additional English Language test (please see http://www2.warwick.ac.uk/study/postgraduate/ apply/english/englishlanguagealternative for up to date information on acceptable tests), and notify us of this. Provided all other conditions of your offer have been met, this will enable us to issue you a CAS and you will be able to apply for your Visa. If you would like further advice on your English Language qualifications, and whether they will be accepted by UKVI, please contact us by reply. Kind regards C and P Postgraduate Admissions Student Admissions and Recruitment Office, The University of Warwick ------------------------------------------------------------ 看起來是必須考其他檢定才能申請簽證(對W校學生而言) -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 111.80.210.162 ※ 文章網址: http://www.ptt.cc/bbs/AdvEduUK/M.1398354596.A.25D.html

04/25 00:42, , 1F
要去Durham也有收到信!
04/25 00:42, 1F

04/25 00:51, , 2F
如果UKVI確定不發visa給只有toefl的人,那就任何學
04/25 00:51, 2F

04/25 00:51, , 3F
校都適用此規定了。
04/25 00:51, 3F

04/25 02:47, , 4F
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04/25 03:13, , 5F
感覺英國對處理還沒共識?
04/25 03:13, 5F

04/25 03:17, , 6F
因為這不是有沒有共識的問題:)。所有的人都要按著規
04/25 03:17, 6F

04/25 03:17, , 7F
定文字辦事,但是規定的文字需要解釋,就算統一解釋
04/25 03:17, 7F

04/25 03:19, , 8F
清楚了,不同的學校還是可能有自己的操作空間。在簽
04/25 03:19, 8F

04/25 03:19, , 9F
證申請審核的case worker這一端,也有可能對已經解釋
04/25 03:19, 9F

04/25 03:20, , 10F
相對清楚的規定理解錯誤...總之還要混亂一陣子
04/25 03:20, 10F

04/25 03:24, , 11F
從以往home office針對牽涉非EU籍學生的事務的處理態
04/25 03:24, 11F

04/25 03:24, , 12F
度,例如PSW政策改變、撤銷LMU sponsor資格等事件,
04/25 03:24, 12F

04/25 03:25, , 13F
可以看出他們根本不會事先徵詢受影響的學校、學生的
04/25 03:25, 13F

04/25 03:26, , 14F
意見,也不會針對可能會有的影響或衝擊進行事先評估
04/25 03:26, 14F

04/25 03:27, , 15F
,他們根本不在乎高等教育是英國重要的出口產業的事
04/25 03:27, 15F

04/25 03:27, , 16F
實。不只外籍學生,這些學校一定也都對home office幹
04/25 03:27, 16F

04/25 03:28, , 17F
得要死。
04/25 03:28, 17F

04/25 03:34, , 18F
2月的BBC調查報導揭露的弊端不只是有人在ETS測驗舞弊
04/25 03:34, 18F

04/25 03:35, , 19F
,也包括英國自己許多銀行內部有人與bogus college
04/25 03:35, 19F

04/25 03:37, , 20F
勾結,提供與真正bank statement外觀完全相同的偽造
04/25 03:37, 20F

04/25 03:38, , 21F
文件,以往甚至也有知名大學的學位證書可以買到偽品
04/25 03:38, 21F

04/25 03:39, , 22F
,甚至還通得過查核。home office怎麼不去把這些銀行
04/25 03:39, 22F

04/25 03:40, , 23F
、學校關一關?永遠用這種overkill的方式,對待真正
04/25 03:40, 23F

04/25 03:40, , 24F
、誠實的學生、申請人?
04/25 03:40, 24F

04/25 04:09, , 25F
A大。這樣看來是不是會出現home office有政策而學校
04/25 04:09, 25F

04/25 04:10, , 26F
們有對策的情形?而學校們去幹home office對大政策不
04/25 04:10, 26F

04/25 04:10, , 27F
會造成影響吧?
04/25 04:10, 27F

04/25 04:41, , 28F
這就跟之前a大討論過為什麼英國出境沒有護照檢查
04/25 04:41, 28F

04/25 04:41, , 29F
然後邊境管理局再來要求各校嚴發學生簽證是一樣的蠢
04/25 04:41, 29F

04/25 05:01, , 30F
這些政策背後的issue其實是移民議題。就跟台灣陸生、
04/25 05:01, 30F

04/25 05:01, , 31F
陸配政策背後的issue其實是中國問題一樣。
04/25 05:01, 31F

04/25 08:01, , 32F
看到這篇讓我忍不住開始質疑LBS的答覆了QQ
04/25 08:01, 32F

04/25 08:18, , 33F
話說我昨天有打給伯大,說法也跟華威一樣...
04/25 08:18, 33F

04/25 08:36, , 34F
不過從這篇文內容看起來 是卡在學校不敢發CAS
04/25 08:36, 34F

04/25 08:36, , 35F
那假設另外一種情況 學校願意發CAS 那UKVI還會擋嗎?
04/25 08:36, 35F

04/25 09:02, , 36F
這第三段還滿....明確的
04/25 09:02, 36F

04/25 09:22, , 37F
學校雖發了CAS 但Appendix 8還是要填托福成績 
04/25 09:22, 37F

04/25 09:23, , 38F
一樣可能會被拒簽
04/25 09:23, 38F

04/25 09:24, , 39F
04/25 09:24, 39F
還有 30 則推文
04/25 13:25, , 70F
我剛剛有看到大陸新聞說4/6前考的托福有效 真的假的?
04/25 13:25, 70F

04/25 13:26, , 71F
英國駐中國的簽證官好像會用面試處理這些問題
04/25 13:26, 71F

04/25 14:01, , 72F
他應該是指4/6前已經拿到CAS在跑簽證的人??還是是
04/25 14:01, 72F

04/25 14:02, , 73F
4/6以前考但還沒有CAS的都可以適用!?
04/25 14:02, 73F

04/25 14:10, , 74F
剛剛看到的報導沒有交代細節 也不知道消息來源為何
04/25 14:10, 74F

04/25 14:13, , 75F
不過我大陸的朋友說那邊有學生聯名寫信給UKVI和ETS
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04/25 14:13, , 76F
表達抗議 或許有抗議有效
04/25 14:13, 76F

04/25 14:18, , 77F
臺灣有面簽單位嗎@@?英國文化協會!?
04/25 14:18, 77F

04/25 14:30, , 78F
說錯,應該是英國貿易文化處==?
04/25 14:30, 78F

04/25 14:43, , 79F
不曉得負責的是英國貿易文化處還是簽證中心
04/25 14:43, 79F

04/25 15:06, , 80F
臺灣會不會因為沒人吵就被搓湯圓啊..想打去外交部抗
04/25 15:06, 80F

04/25 15:07, , 81F
議捏.....老實話這權益受損蠻嚴重的..
04/25 15:07, 81F

04/25 15:08, , 82F
話說如果處置辦法是這樣,學校應該沒理由不發CAS了吧
04/25 15:08, 82F

04/25 15:13, , 83F
就算拿到CAS也不代表簽證一定會過 學校說5月多會給我
04/25 15:13, 83F

04/25 15:13, , 84F
CAS 但我現在還是覺得有點抖
04/25 15:13, 84F

04/25 15:47, , 85F
如果大陸都發聲明了,沒道理臺灣拒簽吧!?差別待遇X
04/25 15:47, 85F

04/25 18:03, , 86F
英國在台貿易處只負責收送件 簽證在馬尼拉核發
04/25 18:03, 86F

04/25 18:06, , 87F
貿易處的人員只負責"收送件" 他們不會保證拒簽與否
04/25 18:06, 87F

04/25 22:40, , 88F
我有看到大陸的新聞。我覺得撰稿人誤解很大。
04/25 22:40, 88F

04/25 22:44, , 89F
至於面試,之前的目標是在2013年底以前所有非low
04/25 22:44, 89F

04/25 22:45, , 90F
risk國家的學生申辦簽證都要進行面試,今年18 mar對
04/25 22:45, 90F

04/25 22:46, , 91F
移民法變動預告的HC1138則說明6 Apr起移民法規會明確
04/25 22:46, 91F

04/25 22:47, , 92F
澄清簽證官有要求面試low risk申請人的權力。基本上
04/25 22:47, 92F

04/25 22:47, , 93F
大陸申請人跟台灣不同。他們本來就要面試,跟用什麼
04/25 22:47, 93F

04/25 22:49, , 94F
種類的英文測驗無關。自然也和哪些是受認可的SELT是
04/25 22:49, 94F

04/25 22:50, , 95F
不同層次的問題。面試不需要由簽證官親自進行,只要
04/25 22:50, 95F

04/25 22:50, , 96F
收件職員做了以後在申請件上加註面試結果給簽證官看
04/25 22:50, 96F

04/25 22:53, , 97F
就好。另外,關於抗議,我覺得在你弄清實際狀況之前
04/25 22:53, 97F

04/25 22:53, , 98F
,幻想特別受到什麼委屈或差別待遇都非常不健康,就
04/25 22:53, 98F

04/25 22:55, , 99F
就目前所知的事實,要和英國當局抗議我理解、贊同,
04/25 22:55, 99F

04/25 22:57, , 100F
但是請至少把層次拉高一點,你是以"tier 4申請人"身
04/25 22:57, 100F

04/25 23:00, , 101F
分對home office的新政策感到不滿。
04/25 23:00, 101F

04/25 23:02, , 102F
我最後那句是開玩笑的...沒發現XD的D被切掉:((
04/25 23:02, 102F

04/25 23:04, , 103F
造成ah大誤解,先說聲抱歉囉><
04/25 23:04, 103F

04/30 01:10, , 104F
趕快考雅思比較保險,都準備這麼久了,不要卡在最後
04/30 01:10, 104F

04/30 07:46, , 105F
所以上一篇才會說與其在這邊爭不如趕快準備考試
04/30 07:46, 105F
今天收到Imperial的信, 看起來UKVI還沒回覆「以TOEFL成績拿到offer、但還未申請簽證的學生」該怎麼辦, 至於4月6日前申辦簽證的學生是確定沒問題,但有可能需要額外面試。 相關信件內容節錄如下: if you have not yet taken an English language test, and you were intending on taking the TOEFL iBT test in order to meet the English language condition of your offer, please note that with effect from 6th April 2014 ETS are no longer offering testing and therefore, you should make immediate arrangements to take another test we accept. If you require a Tier 4 Visa to come and study here and you have already taken a TOEFL iBT test, we have received confirmation that applicants who have made an overseas visa application using an ETS certificate dated 5 April 2014 or earlier, will have their application processed in the usual way, and may be required to attend an interview. Unfortunately, The Home Office is unable as yet to provide clarification on applicants who have an offer (based on ETS scores), but who have not yet submitted their visa application.

04/30 22:01, , 106F
但大部分的人都是現在這未確定狀態阿XD
04/30 22:01, 106F
但可以確定推文裡說的大陸新聞所指的是哪種條件的學生了, 還沒跑簽證流程的話還是先考雅思吧! ※ 編輯: delerue (111.70.123.82), 04/30/2014 22:46:17

04/30 22:57, , 107F
得到消息當天就已經報名,只是很想知道會怎麼收尾
04/30 22:57, 107F
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